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UPDATE: Qingdao mysterious illness

July 17, 2008 · No Comments

At this time we still have nothing new, except that they have cancelled the sailing excerises at this time. This is from a German report:

China: excuse for blocking offence

Qingdao (AP) - The Chinese Olympic organizers have announced their closure of the Olympic coalfield undone and for any inconvenience to the national sailing associations excused.

The closure was on Monday afternoon for Tuesday morning (8.00 clock time) have been announced, but still in the night of Tuesday with an apology of the organizing committee (BOCOG) has been repealed.

As the BOCOG said it had alleged in the warrant on Monday is an error traded.  An e-mail content was mistakenly corresponding to the national sailing associations have been sent.  The process is now up and a second notification to the associations already gone.  At the German sailors Federation (DSV), the appropriate apology on Tuesday morning - to clock 4.04 - by e-mail.

Sailing, the assets but not.  Both asset and Yngling spokeswoman tax Ulrike Schuemann (Berlin) and Tornado helmsman Johannes Polgar (Danish-Nienhof) reported dense fog.  The Visibility currently amounts to less than ten meters, said Polgar.

In the fight against the scourge algae have been the organizers after the deployment of 139 000 aid workers and soldiers to make progress.  It was not as bad as previously confirmed Ulrike Schuemann Despite isolated algae that the waters segelbar. ” http://www.hna.de/olympiastart/00_20080715133203_China_Entschuldigung_fuer_angedrohte_Sperrung.html

If you check this link out, it’s in German and needs a translation.

There is speculation that this is just for a day.

As far as this being an menigitis outbreak/epidemic, it’s still hasn’t been confirmed. The persistant sypmtoms is still  multi organ involvement(liver and kidneys), difficulty breathing and flu like symptoms.

The algae is cleaned up according to a blog post:http://www.wadlowrast.com/

I take  it these people are sailors and have a boat there. Some people are trying to fit the algae into this making people sick.I don’t believe it is. This illness is a disease striking thousands of people.

When I have something new I’ll update. If anybody has anything, please let us know. We’ll all in the dark as to what’s really going on, and I don’t want to buy more tin foil is I don’t have to! ;-)

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China-Quingdao mysterious outbreak.

July 16, 2008 · No Comments

By now, this story is all over the flu borads. As of now we have really no other source of information. We can conclude several things after picking this to death:
The orginal chineese paper states 160,000 people infected. The translation machine says 16 million. We all know that isn’t possible, and further more, it would be all over the news, and we’d be infected by now.
The Chineese government has a very tight censorship on the news.
The Olympics are the main priority at this moment. They are not going to let anything shadow this.
This is either the flu(which strain?) or SARS all over again.
“The first clue of the outbreak appears to be November 27, 2002 when Canada’s Global Public Health Intelligence Network (GPHIN), an electronic warning system which is part of the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Global Outbreak and Alert Response Network (GOARN), picked up reports of a “flu outbreak” in China through internet media monitoring and analysis and sent them to the WHO.[6][7] Subsequently, the WHO requested information from Chinese authorities on December 5 and 11″
So, if anyone has any news please let us know.
China - mysterious outbreak of large-scale epidemic

Qingdao July mysterious outbreak of large-scale epidemic, the experts said suspected meningitis infection
July 15, 2008
Into the July 2008, Qingdao University Hospital, Qingdao City Hospital, and other major hospitals every day, packed with tens of thousands of urban areas in all directions from Qingdao came from other small and medium-sized hospitals and the referral of suspected flu-like symptoms from the crowd . These patients is a common clinical features are intense headaches, vomiting, high fever and other symptoms Butui, many elderly and children is more severe symptoms, often associated with liver, kidney and respiratory failure complicated by other symptoms. As of July 15, Qingdao urban areas within the total number of infections to 16 million people, killed 1,251 people. With the increasing number of infected persons, civil fear is spreading. Qingdao City health sector in order to appease the mood of the masses, first through the media, external experts is that influenza infection, said no large-scale spread of the disease, with a view to appease dissatisfied with the masses. But as the number of sick people who died and a sharp increase in the number of people privately speculate whether this is what kind of disease »
July 12, the Qingdao municipal government organized the city’s Health Bureau, the Centers for Disease Control study of the staff held meetings, first proposed at the infectious diseases as suspected epidemic cerebrospinal meningitis (ECM) infection. In order to ensure that the upcoming Olympic Games sailing competition will not be affected by the epidemic, the meeting will be clear by the disease outbreak as a top-secret Miji be kept confidential, and urged all levels of health care units to patients with strict confidentiality, to take all possible measures of Isolate patients, in addition to the tight, loose, still insist that the external pandemic flu.
According to the medical profession concerned said that the ECM was caused by meningococcus of suppurative inflammation, has strong infectious, the annual winter and spring, the incidence of meningitis can be acute bacterial sexually transmitted diseases account for the first. ECM three susceptible population are children, the elderly and migrant workers.
First of all invasive meningococcal respiratory tract, patients on the first day of the onset of a similar upper respiratory tract infection symptoms like fever, stuffy nose and a slight cough. To the first 2-3 days, pathogenic bacteria will soon enter the blood system, destroyed by the enemy of normal human blood cells, the formation of sepsis, leading to infection toxic shock. Shivering in the performance of high fever, looking pale and Jingshenbuzhen, on a plaque or sediment deposition point. Bacteria will be through the blood-brain barrier, into the brain tissue, leading to meningitis, a severe headache, vomiting spray, and even convulsions.
ECM central nervous system caused by infection, if not timely and effective treatment, patients may be due to circulatory failure, respiratory failure and death, the mortality rate as high as 10 percent. http://209.85.171.104/translat…
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New Tang Dynasty TV www.ntdtv.com 2008-7-15 19:54  

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H5N1 and The Long War Against Flu

July 14, 2008 · 3 Comments

 

H5N1 And The Long War Against Flu

by: DemFromCT

Sun Jul 13, 2008 at 10:57:51 AM EDT

cross-posted at Daily KosHere’s this month’s editorial in the prestigious international science journal Nature:

That the H5N1 strain of bird flu has not yet caused a pandemic is no cause for complacency. Preparations for the inevitable must be redoubled to mitigate the potential devastation.Five years after the deadly H5N1 avian influenza virus exploded into a global epidemic in birds, it has infected more than 300 people. Happily, it has not yet evolved into a strain that can transmit easily between humans - an event that would trigger a pandemic that could kill tens of millions. But as long as H5N1 continues to be present in animals, that risk persists. And with so many other flu strains out in the world, all constantly evolving, a flu pandemic is inevitable.

DemFromCT :: H5N1 And The Long War Against Flu
The title of the editorial (The long war against flu) seems apt. H5N1 emerged as a major problem for humans in 1997 (Hong Kong) and again in 2003, and since then has been closely followed by the World health Organization, CDC and others (a text timeline through 2005 can be found here). We started writing about flu pandemics here at Daily Kos in 2004, asking the question “Pandemic - what’s that mean? And what’s that got to do with politics?” (and the answer is still “plenty.” See Barack Obama’s NY Times op-ed in 2005.) These diaries (Flu Basics: Science And Threats and Flu Basics II: Politics and Players written in May, 2006 are still, alas, relevant. More on Obama from the American Academy for the Advancement of Science 2008 election page (McCain’s page is here, with no pandemic mention):

Senator Obama has said that preventing an avian flu pandemic is one of his national security priorities. He refers to his work with other Senators to provide $4 billion to the Centers for Disease Control to combat avian flu and to build a stockpile of antiviral drugs that had been in short supply.

See also question 6 of 14 Science Questions the Next President Should Answer:

Pandemics and Biosecurity. Some estimates suggest that if H5N1 Avian Flu becomes a pandemic it could kill more than 300 million people. In an era of constant and rapid international travel, what steps should the United States take to protect our population from global pandemics or deliberate biological attacks?

So taking stock years after the President’s National Response Plan was published (November, 2005), after the cable media hype died down and after billions of federal, state and local dollars and man-hours (and quite a few diaries here at Daily Kos), it’s worth a re-assessment of where we are at (for comparison, see 2005’s Council on Foreign Relations: Pandemic Flu And Where We Stand.)Declan Butler, Nature’s senior science reporter has a terrific Q&A this week on the H5N1 topic, entitled whatever happened to bird flu?. Bottom line: we can’t get rid of it in poultry in Southeast Asia (and Egypt and other places in Africa) so it sits there smoldering, waiting to infect humans, and waiting to potentially mutate to make it easier to catch. H5N1 remains a risk to humans.

And are we prepared? Not so much.

Like hurricanes, pandemics can’t be predicted. We don’t know when the next category 5 storm will hit and where, but the inevitability of severe weather is matched by the inevitability of flu pandemics. As we all now know, there were three in the last century (1918, 1957 and 1968) and the 1918 pandemic was truly devastating. Note the spike in mortality representing the 1918 pandemic.

Thjis is what would happen if the same severity pandemic happened today (modern medicine and all - click for bigger pic):


For that reason (mortality, and especially child mortality), the mitigating efforts of public health and national security agencies have taken place.

There are lots of holes in where we are. Not enough personal preparations have taken place (at least 2 weeks of food and a water supply for every American are advised), and not enough information has reached the public (it’s there if you go and get it.)

Our vulnerabilities are not so obvious, but our inter-related world and Just-in-Time economy contribute to our lack of resilience. For example, last week, I wrote about the price of oil and natural gas contributing to the price of latex exam gloves as an example of the nail-shoe-horse-kingdom chain of events that impacts on the cost of health care (and why it is not easy to rein in - see Health Reform: An Integrated Problem In An Integrated World), but the critical supply chain for food and goods is just as relevant for pandemic discusssions, as is our fragile electrical grid. The following pics come from Michael Osterholm at CIDRAP, U of Minnesota, and outlines the regional dependence of electricity on coal.

Our coal inventories are dangerously low (in terms of potential interruptions) Imagine if the folks who run the coal trains (and the mines) become ill.

This is why posts like 2007’s Flu Stories: Is the Internet At Risk In A Pandemic? are relevant. So are energy stories, particularly when placed against the backdrop of worldwide food price hikes and potential and actual food shortages.

In the end, the risk of H5N1 (or some other flu virus such as an H7 or H9 strain) mutating and becoming a pandemic virus remains. Inevitably, a pandemic will happen (H5N1 being on the more severe end of possibilities.) What we can do is prepare ourselves for the inevitable, and in the process take a long and hard look at what we are doing on the energy front as well as the effects a natural disaster would have on surge capacity (see 2008’s Pandemic Challenges For Hospitals.)

Whether it’s rebuilding public health infrastructure, or including public health in health reform, or understanding the integrated just-in-time way of life we lead and protecting that as well, preparing for a pandemic will help us cope with whatever comes next. It’d be nice to know just what that ’something’ is, but we’re not always that lucky. Ask the folks in New Orleans whether more preparation time should have been spent, and whether we are spending enough time worrying about natural disasters now.

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Bird Flu still threatening Indonesia

July 12, 2008 · 1 Comment

On Friday, July 11 2008
The plague of Bird Flu was Still threatening Indonesia

http://www.republika.co.id/koran_detail.asp?id=340990&kat_id=13

Earplugs — the Plague of bird flu (Avian Influenza) in Indonesia still continued to be guarded against. This deadly illness was still having the potential to develop faster than last 2005. Agriculture Minister, Anton Apriyantono, said, this illness must be guarded against, especially during the rain season.

His article, the development of the bird flu virus in the rain season was far more aggressive compared with the dry season like at this time. We ‘must continue to be on the alert against this bird flu attack’, said Anton, in gaps of the Penyidikan Hall cornerstone of the Veteriner Testing of the laying agenda (BPPV), in the Village of Werasari Kel Dangdeur Kab Subang, on Thursday (10/7).

Anton explained, the plague of the bird flu illness the first time was in Indonesia around 2004. This plague, caused the economic loss in large scale. The following year, said Anton, this bird flu threatened the spirit of humankind. Because, the spreading of his deadly virus not only from the animal to the animal, but already to humankind.

In 2005, said Anton, was recorded by approximately 136 people was infected the AI virus, even 110 people among them, his spirit could not be rescued. Since ‘bird flu attacked humankind, then we carried out the research to produce his charm medicine’, he said. It was further that Anton said, because of the fear of the bird flu threat that increasingly raged this, then several researches and the laboratory were developed to produce the dangerous illness charm that was spread by the livestock animal. One of them, with the development of the health laboratory of the animal to avian influenza (AI).

Named by Anton, ideally each province in Indonesia had this laboratory. However, said he, because of the limitations of the fund, at this time the AI laboratory available in Indonesia this just totalling eight units. Director General Peternakan Departemen of Agriculture, Cepy Sujana Daradjatun, claimed, the development of the AI laboratory that the laying of his cornerstone was carried out yesterday that was the natural grant from the Japanese community.

The value of help that was given by Japan as big as 1,78 billion yen Japan. With ‘help from Japan this, was hoped we could create the charm for bird flu and anthrax’, he said. Whereas the representative of the Japanese Embassy for Indonesia, Satoro Sato, added, the development project of this laboratory must immediately be finished. He aimed at the BPPV development in Subang this was finished in March 2009 that would datang. win


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Bird flu strain found in Purwakata

July 2, 2008 · No Comments

The Bird Flu groove was Just found in Purwakarta
By editorial staff of 02/07/2008 @ 00:47

http://www.infeksi.com/newsdetail.php?lng=in&doc=2213

(that link needs to be translated in case you check it out)

Jakarta: the Penelitian Veteriner Hall (Balitvet) Bogor, West Java, found the groove (strain) the new bird flu virus in Purwakarta.

Peternakan West Java Rachmat Setiadi Section Head said, in accordance with his location, the groove that was suspected of by results of the mutation being acknowledged also as the Purwakarta groove with the specific code strain PWK.

Director Kesehatan of the Animal Directorate General Peternakan Departemen of Musny Suatmodjo Agriculture said, strain that was the bird flu virus that had emerged in this territory in 1976.

The difference of the protein composition caused the bird flu vaccine that uptil now was used in Indonesia to become ineffective.
Despite this, Musny guaranteed the bird flu virus of H5N1 strain Purwakarta not turn off like strain other bird flu.
The difference that was specific in the protein composition in strain Purwakarta, according to Musny, happened resulting from the mutation in the virus body personally.
However the mutation did not change the composition like perubahan
the form from H5N1 became the kind H5N2.

To map the explanation of the bird flu virus, according to Rachmat, Dinas Peternakan spread out the co-operation with Balitvet.
Apart from in Purwakarta, strain same was reported emerged in several other territories.
Strain just like that, Musny continued, also to be found in the Sukabumi territory, Subang and Jakarta.

As Goju from PFI stated, “specific code strain PWK???

WTF? Sequences? What changes?

Is this just gonna slip under the radar?
http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=585&start=11325

Do we get three guesses and the first two don’t count?

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List of mammals infected with H5N1

June 28, 2008 · No Comments

Here is a list of the mamals that have been inflected. Link to this is here:

http://homepage.mac.com/monotreme1/Science%20Folder/Animals.htmls courtesy of Monotreme, creater and moderator of Pandemic Flu Information (PFI)

PFI:  www.singtomeohmuse.com

Mammals (class Mammalia)

Order Carnivora (Carnivores)

Cat (Felis catus)
Tiger (Panthera tigris)
Leopard (Panthera pardus)
Dog (Canis lupus familiaris)
Stone Marten (Martes foina)
Ferrets (Mustela putorius)
Owston’s Palm Civet (Chrotogale owstoni)

Order Atriodactyla (Even-toed ungulates)

Pig (Sus scrofa)

Order Rodentia (Rodents)

House Mouse (Mus musculus)
Norway Rat (Rattus norvegicus)

Order Primates

Cynomologus monkeys (Macaca fascicularis)
Humans (Homo sapiens)

Birds (class Aves)

Order Galliformes

Chicken (Gallus gallus)
Domesticated Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo)
Kalij Pheasant (Lophura leucomelanos)
Common Pheasant (Phasianus colchicus)
Indian Peafowl (Pavo cristatus)
Helmeted Guineafowl (Numida meleagris)
Chukar (Alectoris chukar)
Partridge (Species not indicated)
Japanese Quail (Coturnix coturnix)
Bobwhite Quail (Colinus virginianus)
Quail (Species not indicated)

Order Anseriformes

Duck (species unspecified)
Ruddy shelduck (Tadorna ferruginea)
Muscovy Duck (Cairina moschata)
Mallard Duck (Anas platyrhynchos)
Wood Duck (Aix sponsa)
Maned Wood Duck (Chenonetta jubata)
White-faced Whistling Duck (Dendrocygna viduata)
Tufted Duck (Aythya fuligula)
Common Merganser (Mergus merganser)
Smew (Mergellus albellus)
Greater Scaup (Aythya marila)
Argentine (Red) Shoveler (Anas platalea)
Chiloe Wigeon (Anas sibilatrix)
Bahama Pintail (Anas bahamensis)
Northern Pintail (Anas acuta)
Brazilian Teal (Amazonetta brasiliensis)
Chestnut Teal (Anas castanea)
Puna Teal (Anas puna)
Ringed Teal (Callonetta leucophrys)
Rosybill Pochard (Netta peposaca)
Red-crested Pochard (Netta rufina)
Pochard (Aythya ferina)
Greylag Goose (Anser anser)
Bar-headed goose (Anser indicus)
Barnacle Goose (Branta leucopsis)
Canada Goose (Branta canadensis)
Brent Goose (Branta bernicla)
Hawaiian Goose (Branta sandvicensis)
Egyptian (Nile) Goose (Alopochen aegyptiacus)
Goose (species unspecified)
Coscoroba Swan (Coscoroba coscoroba)
Black-necked Swan (Cygnus melancoryphus)
Mute Swan (Cygnus olor)
Whooper Swan (Cygnus cygnus)

Order Gruiformes

Eurasian (common) coot (Fulica atra)

Order Charadriiformes

Great black-headed gull (Larus ichthyaetus)
Brown-headed gull (Larus brunnicephalus)

Order Pelecaniformes

Great cormorant (Phalacrocorax carbo)

Order Ciconiiformes

Grey Heron (Ardea cinerea)
Little Egret (Egretta garzetta)
Asian Openbill Stork (Anastomus oscitans)

Order Podicipediformes

Little Grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis)

Order Passeriformes

Blackbird (Turdus merula)
Tree Sparrow (Passer montanus)
Oriental Magpie Robin (Copsychus saularis)
Zebra Finch (Taeniopygia guttata)
House Finch (Carpodacus mexicanus)
Crows (Species not specified)

Order Columbiformes

Little Cuckoo-Dove (Macropygia ruficeps)
Pigeon (Species not indicated)

Order Phoenicopteriformes

Caribbean Flamingo (Phoenicopterus ruber)

Order Psittaciformes

Budgerigar (Melopsittacus undulatus)

Order Falconiformes

Peregrine falcon (Falco Peregrinus)
Goshawk (Accipiter gentilis)
Common Buzzard (Buteo buteo)
Rough-legged Buzzard (Buteo lagopus)

Order Struthioniformes

Ostrich (Struthio camelus)
Emu (Dromaius novaehollandiae)

 

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Bird Flu is a Hoax or cover up?

June 28, 2008 · No Comments

I’ve just came across this, thanks to Tempest at fluwiki. While this was posted back in Feb of this year, I’m just now seeing it for heavens sake!

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=82&contentid=4905

 

Now, where do I begin?  Ah yes:

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“Although some “experts” still argue that preparations against bird flu must continue, many are finally beginning to realize what I said all along — that this overhyped, oversold “pandemic” was never a threat in the first place.”

Don’t you like the word “never?”  He knows it’ll never happen. Then why doesn’t he pass along his concrete proof? 

“According to Dr. Paul A. Offit, a vaccine specialist at Children’s Hospital in Philadelphia, “H5 viruses have been around for 100 years and never caused a pandemic and probably never will.””

There’s lots of diseases out there that have been around for many, many years, and have never caused any problems on a major scale. Trouble is, H5N1 just happens to be rearing it’s ugly head killing people, through “animals” and humans. Yes I said animals. H5N1 isn’t just for poultry anymore. FYI, one Dr.’s comment doesn’t make it true. I’ll tell you why in a moment.

“ Still, according to this New York Times article, scientists and governments are congratulating themselves for averting a threat that never was by stockpiling worthless vaccines, pointlessly culling hundreds of millions of birds, and pouring money into preparation efforts.”

Hate to disappont the readers of the NEW YORK TIMES, but nobody is congratulating themselves for averting anything. H5N1 is still on a rampage, still infecting; still killing. That “pointless culling” is in reality necessary. Once a farm has several poultry infected, the whole flock gets infected. That’s how it works. What is pointless, is to think that seperating the flock from the inflected will save the infected. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.  Why? Because H5N1 is highly contagious.  Even if the rest of the flock doesn’t get sick, they will be carriers. What are the options for the farmer?

I don’t know what “preparition efforts” this Dr. is talking about, or whom is doing this. Wish he could have been more specific. About the only thing I will agree with the the vaccines. Yep, totally useless. Even the CDC is having increasing trouble matching the flu strains from flu season to flu season. 

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“The case of “the impending pandemic of the Avian Flu” might as well have been a fictional mini-series made for television, but as usual, reality is stranger than fiction. It would be hard to make up a story as filled with greed and political corruption as this one.”

Well, the Dr. actually pointed to the root of the problem. “ filled with greed and political corruption as this one.” It’s no story, I’m sorry to say. This is exactly what is going on with others countries as well. Funny thing: when you’ve watched this and followed this for as long as I have, (and there’s others who have been watching this far longer), you really start to see just how political everything is, and just how entwinded the politics of countries are.

“Back in 2005, headlines warned the U.S. was facing a cataclysmic extermination event, with a calculated two million Americans succumbing to the bird flu; the best case scenario taking only 200,000 lives.

Photos of overflowing hospital wards from the 1918 flu epidemic heightened the fear factor to a fever pitch.”

I first became aware of H5N1 back in ‘05, when they were showing the culling of poulty. I would read an occasional article in the newspaper when it was published. Nowhere did I read that “only 200,000 lives would die out of 2 million americans getting bf. I can only conclude that in ‘05, H5N1 was “new” in the sense that they didn’t know much about it, in anyway shape or form. One can gain alot of knowledge in 3 years.  We know they have.

So the 1918 flu, was just an epidemic.  Hmmm. That’s quiet interesting. I guess a worldwide flu ravage doesn’t constitute a pandemic anymore. If 1918 was emdemic flu, what would the Dr. say would be a pandemic flu?

“ Well. A fool does in the end what the wise man does at the beginning, and this would certainly apply here. Reviewing the scientific facts is often a good place to start, but that did not happen in this case. Somehow they were able to translate the minuscule deaths that had occurred worldwide into somewhere between 200,000 to 2 million deaths from a virus that does NOT readily spread from birds to humans, nor between humans.’

You know, scientific facts don’t make up the whole picture. That’s only part of the pictue. and yes, in ‘05, the death toll was low, and did not spread easily from poultry to humans. It’s three years later doc, we’re not in ‘05 anymore.  Alot has changed. (honestly, this article is dated 2008, but they are using such outdated reasearch, if it wasn’t so funny, I’d cry!)

Anyhow, the article goes on, and the Dr. tells you he was right about bird flu being a hoax. He then goes on the give his list of how to avoid the flu without a vaccanation. Well, if every human body was the same and perfect, this would be great advice to follow. This is stuff people try to do everyday. Even the healthiest people get sick, and catch the flu. He is fortunate that he hasn’t caught the flu in 20 years, but there are a number of reason why he doesn’t get sick, just like other’s who don’t do anything and don’t get sick. Let’s put it this way: put him in a room full of flu and let’s see the if the doc doesn’t get sick! That’s an experiment I’d love to witness.

I’ve said this time and time again; if one is going to go to great lengths to say this is all ahoax, at least do some things first. Track this virus. Translate the Indonesian articles. Read the cases that come in from different countries concerning their bf situation. Really study the material concerning the virus. You’ll be surprised at what you find. At least know what your talking about  before you say “it’ll never happen, and it’s a hoax.”  Use current data and information from the countries, not some doc who’s never been there let alone read one article about any Egyptian deaths, much less others deaths from other countries.

You believe it’s a hoax. I believe it’s a cover up. What the hoax or deception scam is, the cover up it’self. H5N1 is a very real virus, infecting more people than anyone cares to read about. This virus has already produced H-2-H clusters. For this to be acknowelged, would have implications that TPTB just aren’t willing to admit to. Imagine what would be the result of admittance? Supari, Indonesian’s health minister, announced last month that the news reguarding bf cases and deaths would no longer be reported in the press.  South Korea bounces back and for that no, there is no bf , and yes there is. The cases being reported suggest, yes there is bf. WHO has totally changed their alert level phases, to suggest ” a feeling of security.” The current alert phase chart, which we are at 3, is more than adquate. However, WHO seems to think it’s “confusing.” funny, I don’t get confused when I look at it, but get very confused when I look at not one, but three different alert phase charts from three different organazations! Hello? I guess one wasn’t enough.

  http://www.newfluwiki2.com/upload/usg_who.jpg

The timing of all this disemination happens to be centered around the Olympics, and the major tourist season from this side of the world. It’s summer vacation time, and Indo wants to turn it’s image around. “Hey world, the bird flu flew away. No more bad virus. Everything alright now.”

As the reports of humans becoming infected without being around poultry increased, the clamp down in news and denial started.

Hoax or cover up? 

This is my opinion and I’n sticking with it! ;-)

Until next time

cottontop

 

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If you have seasonal preps, you stand a chance with a pandemic

June 26, 2008 · No Comments

Long before I ever heard about H5N1/birdflu, I was an avid prepper for seasonal emergencies. It was during our icestorm disaster in ‘98, that the impact of having seasonal preps really woke me up. About the only prep I had at the time, was a manual can opener, something nobody else had. Go figure.

We were 13 days without power and phone. I did learn something and so did my hubby: a woman without a phone is NOT GOOD! I dealt with the daily problems that came up, while hubby scavenaged for food, water, and whatever he could get his hands on. Our cooking stove was propane, so we were good there. We could not go out because of the ice. However, cottontop being the curious little creature she is, went against the warning, and went outside. Down I went. A very stupid thing, as medical help could not get to me. I went out because I couldn’t handle being couped up. I needed to breath! The stress was horrible. I was cut off from society, worried sick about if I was going to be able to keep Daughter from getting hypertherma. (She hates hot chocolate to this day!) Hubby was moving between two households. His mother was battling cancer, and his father was bedridden with a broken hip and advanced parkinson’s. He was staying up watching our home at night, because looting was becoming a problem even in a rural setting, as people left their homes to go to shelters. What food we did get, I would sneak out some to our dog, which was tricky(didn’t want to fall again, and didn’t want hubby to catch me!)  I couldn’t let him starve. I cried at the thought.

When it was all said and done, the moral to the story is if we had two weeks of supplies, we would have been o.k. Just o.k. mind you. I went nuts with the prepping. I had dog food stashed under Daughter’s bed, along with what ever I could shove under there. Every spot in the house was full of something. Hubby started talking about committing me. Daughter was fed up with her room becoming a warehouse. Then an odd thing happened. For no reason, our whole area lost power for 24 hours during the summer. Well, guess who’s preps where in demand? After that, my family has never questioned my sanity. They can’t. Our preps have gotten us out of too many jams with power outages, and snowstorms. They believe in the “power of being prepared.”

If you and your family are prepared for seasonal disasters, you stand a chance against a pandemic. If you have been having trouble getting family and friends to prepare for a pandemic, get them to prep for seasonal disasters. I’ve had more success in talking to people about this more than using a pandemic to get people to prepare. People understand disasters. They can’t understand a pandemic.

By getting them to prepare for seasonal disasters, you are getting them to prepare for a pandemic. Then you won’t have to worry about them showing up on your doorstep! ;-)

If you are like me, once you start prepping, you never look back.

Until next time,

cottontop

 

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Waiting for a pandemic will wear you out!

June 26, 2008 · No Comments

This is in response to medclinican’s diary on the fluwiki. It’s been awhile since he’s posted. He’s concerned people are giving up, therefore will be unprepared when a pandemic happens.

“Thank you Medclinician.

It’s has been awhile.Yes, I agree with your assessment:” In fact, many serious and devoted posters have gone back to their normal family life, and in effect have lowered the alert level in their minds to a very pale yellow.”

It’s a human factor and that we can’t change. I struggle every now and then with this too, but then something major with happen, and I quickly loose the thought, and get back to business. Life too, for most of us, is just too busy for watching and waiting. I certainly hope that these posters do check up on the current situation, and do stay informed, although they may no longer post. I can’t blame these people for wanting their lives back.

We won’t be able to save everyone. We’ll only be able to  save just a few. Right now, to the massess, this info isn’t severe enough for them. They want numbers, large numbers, in order for them to justify them getting themselves and their family in a panic and spending spree. Money is tight Families fear for loss of jobs, and loss of homes. So in order for them to “give a damn” the H5N1 situation is going to have to get alot worse. Unfortunately, that’s when it’ll be too late. People really are in a catch 22. Perhaps they care, but do not have the extra money to spend on preps. Perhaps they have the money, and just don’t care.

The situation of getting people to pay attention and care, is what it is. Honestly, I think that at this point (because too many of us have been down this road)is to consentrate on getting the information out, instead of getting ourselves worked up because they aren’t listening. We have enough frustration trying to understand the motivations of these people who change the rules to suit a particular situation. We need to be here, where our time and energy will count. “The needs of the many out weight the needs of the few.” Is that how it goes you Trekkes out there? In other words, reaching as many people this way is certainly more valuable then trying to reach one, two or five people, face to face. Unless of course, you have something like the Readymom. “ 

United we stand: Divided we fall

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A blogger’s plea

June 11, 2008 · No Comments

Now that the dust has settled(more or less) about Indonesian’s health minister’s decision, I’m going to send out a pleas to all the Indonesian bloggers:

We need your help. When I say “we”, I mean the world needs your help. Every single person needs your help. You have the ability to help keep us informed about this virus H5N1 and it’s victims. You have the ability to help us to keep tracking and informing the public on this great planet we live on. If we all work together, we can still stay one step ahead of a pandemic.  If you can help, please contact me at tresa2@peoplepc.com.  I know this plea sounds desperate, and it is. Right now we are sitting in the dark, and everyday that goes by in the dark is one more day we grow further away from the truth. That is what Supari wants for us, the world. She has a different agenda, and it isn’t saving lives! Please don’t let this woman win!

 

Scott McPhearson’s blog

Scott’s rant on Supari’s decision was a typical response from someone who has invested alot of time and energy watching this virus and Indonesia. His response was like others, including myself. I was left feeling very defeated for a couple of days.  Others seem to think that imposing sanctions and the likes would bring Indonesia and Supari to their needs and give in. You know, I don’ think so. I don’t think that is the answer. So this is the comment I left for Scott and all to read. it’s just what I think. 

“Unfortunately, I feel the politics is too deep to untangle this, especially from the U.S.A. We have alot at stake in Indonesia if we decide to start imposing this and that. The U.S. just lifted it’s travel warning to Indo a few months ago concerning the terrorist threat. The U.S. has oil companies there. The U.S. is tied to Indo politically and economicaly, and not many people realize this.

I honestly feel, that at presant time, our pleas to congressmen, political leaders, ect., will fall on deaf ears. I do believe the best we have to hope for and to work with, is the Indoneisan bloggers. They can be the biggest source of help than we can, at present time. Why? Because they are at the source. They have the power more so than us, to get this decision changed. They can write/contact WHO and plead with them to step in. This is happening to them, not us, at the moment. However, we need to be bombarding WHO with e-mails, letters, protests, whatevder we can do, to let them know their lack of response to this is just as outrageous, as Supari’s decision.

Get use to the frustration. It’s only going to get worse. I was furious when I found out the general public was not going to have access to the sequences but that you had to “join” a group that closely monitored what was taken from that site and displayed on the internet. This decison from the health minister has sent us over the edge, and it feels like defeat. We are not defeated. We still have something to work with, and if we all start talking with the Indonesian bloggers, perhaps there is a chance(that’s about all we have left) that Supari’s decision will be overruled, changed or at best, reports can be once a month.

Let’s not give up folks. The flu communities have come too far to feel defeated or be defeated! We have made a difference and we can continue to do so. “

JMHO

So this is my reason for asking for help from Indonesian bloggers. They have the best advantage to make a difference. I hope they use it.

Kudos to Scott for all his hard work and a great blog. Here is the link: http://www.scottmcpherson.net/journal/2008/6/6/indonesias-descent-into-government-madness-continues.html#comments

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