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List of mammals infected with H5N1

28 Saturday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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Here is a list of the mamals that have been inflected. Link to this is here:

http://homepage.mac.com/monotreme1/Science%20Folder/Animals.htmls courtesy of Monotreme, creater and moderator of Pandemic Flu Information (PFI)

PFI:  www.singtomeohmuse.com

Mammals (class Mammalia)

Order Carnivora (Carnivores)

Cat (Felis catus)
Tiger (Panthera tigris)
Leopard (Panthera pardus)
Dog (Canis lupus familiaris)
Stone Marten (Martes foina)
Ferrets (Mustela putorius)
Owston’s Palm Civet (Chrotogale owstoni)

Order Atriodactyla (Even-toed ungulates)

Pig (Sus scrofa)

Order Rodentia (Rodents)

House Mouse (Mus musculus)
Norway Rat (Rattus norvegicus)

Order Primates

Cynomologus monkeys (Macaca fascicularis)
Humans (Homo sapiens)

Birds (class Aves)

Order Galliformes

Chicken (Gallus gallus)
Domesticated Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo)
Kalij Pheasant (Lophura leucomelanos)
Common Pheasant (Phasianus colchicus)
Indian Peafowl (Pavo cristatus)
Helmeted Guineafowl (Numida meleagris)
Chukar (Alectoris chukar)
Partridge (Species not indicated)
Japanese Quail (Coturnix coturnix)
Bobwhite Quail (Colinus virginianus)
Quail (Species not indicated)

Order Anseriformes

Duck (species unspecified)
Ruddy shelduck (Tadorna ferruginea)
Muscovy Duck (Cairina moschata)
Mallard Duck (Anas platyrhynchos)
Wood Duck (Aix sponsa)
Maned Wood Duck (Chenonetta jubata)
White-faced Whistling Duck (Dendrocygna viduata)
Tufted Duck (Aythya fuligula)
Common Merganser (Mergus merganser)
Smew (Mergellus albellus)
Greater Scaup (Aythya marila)
Argentine (Red) Shoveler (Anas platalea)
Chiloe Wigeon (Anas sibilatrix)
Bahama Pintail (Anas bahamensis)
Northern Pintail (Anas acuta)
Brazilian Teal (Amazonetta brasiliensis)
Chestnut Teal (Anas castanea)
Puna Teal (Anas puna)
Ringed Teal (Callonetta leucophrys)
Rosybill Pochard (Netta peposaca)
Red-crested Pochard (Netta rufina)
Pochard (Aythya ferina)
Greylag Goose (Anser anser)
Bar-headed goose (Anser indicus)
Barnacle Goose (Branta leucopsis)
Canada Goose (Branta canadensis)
Brent Goose (Branta bernicla)
Hawaiian Goose (Branta sandvicensis)
Egyptian (Nile) Goose (Alopochen aegyptiacus)
Goose (species unspecified)
Coscoroba Swan (Coscoroba coscoroba)
Black-necked Swan (Cygnus melancoryphus)
Mute Swan (Cygnus olor)
Whooper Swan (Cygnus cygnus)

Order Gruiformes

Eurasian (common) coot (Fulica atra)

Order Charadriiformes

Great black-headed gull (Larus ichthyaetus)
Brown-headed gull (Larus brunnicephalus)

Order Pelecaniformes

Great cormorant (Phalacrocorax carbo)

Order Ciconiiformes

Grey Heron (Ardea cinerea)
Little Egret (Egretta garzetta)
Asian Openbill Stork (Anastomus oscitans)

Order Podicipediformes

Little Grebe (Tachybaptus ruficollis)

Order Passeriformes

Blackbird (Turdus merula)
Tree Sparrow (Passer montanus)
Oriental Magpie Robin (Copsychus saularis)
Zebra Finch (Taeniopygia guttata)
House Finch (Carpodacus mexicanus)
Crows (Species not specified)

Order Columbiformes

Little Cuckoo-Dove (Macropygia ruficeps)
Pigeon (Species not indicated)

Order Phoenicopteriformes

Caribbean Flamingo (Phoenicopterus ruber)

Order Psittaciformes

Budgerigar (Melopsittacus undulatus)

Order Falconiformes

Peregrine falcon (Falco Peregrinus)
Goshawk (Accipiter gentilis)
Common Buzzard (Buteo buteo)
Rough-legged Buzzard (Buteo lagopus)

Order Struthioniformes

Ostrich (Struthio camelus)
Emu (Dromaius novaehollandiae)

 

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Bird Flu is a Hoax or cover up?

28 Saturday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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birf flu, cottontop, cover up, egypt, hoax, Indonesia, pandemic, vaccanations, vaccines

I’ve just came across this, thanks to Tempest at fluwiki. While this was posted back in Feb of this year, I’m just now seeing it for heavens sake!

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=82&contentid=4905

 

Now, where do I begin?  Ah yes:

snip

“Although some “experts” still argue that preparations against bird flu must continue, many are finally beginning to realize what I said all along — that this overhyped, oversold “pandemic” was never a threat in the first place.”

Don’t you like the word “never?”  He knows it’ll never happen. Then why doesn’t he pass along his concrete proof? 

“According to Dr. Paul A. Offit, a vaccine specialist at Children’s Hospital in Philadelphia, “H5 viruses have been around for 100 years and never caused a pandemic and probably never will.””

There’s lots of diseases out there that have been around for many, many years, and have never caused any problems on a major scale. Trouble is, H5N1 just happens to be rearing it’s ugly head killing people, through “animals” and humans. Yes I said animals. H5N1 isn’t just for poultry anymore. FYI, one Dr.’s comment doesn’t make it true. I’ll tell you why in a moment.

” Still, according to this New York Times article, scientists and governments are congratulating themselves for averting a threat that never was by stockpiling worthless vaccines, pointlessly culling hundreds of millions of birds, and pouring money into preparation efforts.”

Hate to disappont the readers of the NEW YORK TIMES, but nobody is congratulating themselves for averting anything. H5N1 is still on a rampage, still infecting; still killing. That “pointless culling” is in reality necessary. Once a farm has several poultry infected, the whole flock gets infected. That’s how it works. What is pointless, is to think that seperating the flock from the inflected will save the infected. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.  Why? Because H5N1 is highly contagious.  Even if the rest of the flock doesn’t get sick, they will be carriers. What are the options for the farmer?

I don’t know what “preparition efforts” this Dr. is talking about, or whom is doing this. Wish he could have been more specific. About the only thing I will agree with the the vaccines. Yep, totally useless. Even the CDC is having increasing trouble matching the flu strains from flu season to flu season. 

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“The case of “the impending pandemic of the Avian Flu” might as well have been a fictional mini-series made for television, but as usual, reality is stranger than fiction. It would be hard to make up a story as filled with greed and political corruption as this one.”

Well, the Dr. actually pointed to the root of the problem. ” filled with greed and political corruption as this one.” It’s no story, I’m sorry to say. This is exactly what is going on with others countries as well. Funny thing: when you’ve watched this and followed this for as long as I have, (and there’s others who have been watching this far longer), you really start to see just how political everything is, and just how entwinded the politics of countries are.

“Back in 2005, headlines warned the U.S. was facing a cataclysmic extermination event, with a calculated two million Americans succumbing to the bird flu; the best case scenario taking only 200,000 lives.

Photos of overflowing hospital wards from the 1918 flu epidemic heightened the fear factor to a fever pitch.”

I first became aware of H5N1 back in ’05, when they were showing the culling of poulty. I would read an occasional article in the newspaper when it was published. Nowhere did I read that “only 200,000 lives would die out of 2 million americans getting bf. I can only conclude that in ’05, H5N1 was “new” in the sense that they didn’t know much about it, in anyway shape or form. One can gain alot of knowledge in 3 years.  We know they have.

So the 1918 flu, was just an epidemic.  Hmmm. That’s quiet interesting. I guess a worldwide flu ravage doesn’t constitute a pandemic anymore. If 1918 was emdemic flu, what would the Dr. say would be a pandemic flu?

” Well. A fool does in the end what the wise man does at the beginning, and this would certainly apply here. Reviewing the scientific facts is often a good place to start, but that did not happen in this case. Somehow they were able to translate the minuscule deaths that had occurred worldwide into somewhere between 200,000 to 2 million deaths from a virus that does NOT readily spread from birds to humans, nor between humans.’

You know, scientific facts don’t make up the whole picture. That’s only part of the pictue. and yes, in ’05, the death toll was low, and did not spread easily from poultry to humans. It’s three years later doc, we’re not in ’05 anymore.  Alot has changed. (honestly, this article is dated 2008, but they are using such outdated reasearch, if it wasn’t so funny, I’d cry!)

Anyhow, the article goes on, and the Dr. tells you he was right about bird flu being a hoax. He then goes on the give his list of how to avoid the flu without a vaccanation. Well, if every human body was the same and perfect, this would be great advice to follow. This is stuff people try to do everyday. Even the healthiest people get sick, and catch the flu. He is fortunate that he hasn’t caught the flu in 20 years, but there are a number of reason why he doesn’t get sick, just like other’s who don’t do anything and don’t get sick. Let’s put it this way: put him in a room full of flu and let’s see the if the doc doesn’t get sick! That’s an experiment I’d love to witness.

I’ve said this time and time again; if one is going to go to great lengths to say this is all ahoax, at least do some things first. Track this virus. Translate the Indonesian articles. Read the cases that come in from different countries concerning their bf situation. Really study the material concerning the virus. You’ll be surprised at what you find. At least know what your talking about  before you say “it’ll never happen, and it’s a hoax.”  Use current data and information from the countries, not some doc who’s never been there let alone read one article about any Egyptian deaths, much less others deaths from other countries.

You believe it’s a hoax. I believe it’s a cover up. What the hoax or deception scam is, the cover up it’self. H5N1 is a very real virus, infecting more people than anyone cares to read about. This virus has already produced H-2-H clusters. For this to be acknowelged, would have implications that TPTB just aren’t willing to admit to. Imagine what would be the result of admittance? Supari, Indonesian’s health minister, announced last month that the news reguarding bf cases and deaths would no longer be reported in the press.  South Korea bounces back and for that no, there is no bf , and yes there is. The cases being reported suggest, yes there is bf. WHO has totally changed their alert level phases, to suggest ” a feeling of security.” The current alert phase chart, which we are at 3, is more than adquate. However, WHO seems to think it’s “confusing.” funny, I don’t get confused when I look at it, but get very confused when I look at not one, but three different alert phase charts from three different organazations! Hello? I guess one wasn’t enough.

  http://www.newfluwiki2.com/upload/usg_who.jpg

The timing of all this disemination happens to be centered around the Olympics, and the major tourist season from this side of the world. It’s summer vacation time, and Indo wants to turn it’s image around. “Hey world, the bird flu flew away. No more bad virus. Everything alright now.”

As the reports of humans becoming infected without being around poultry increased, the clamp down in news and denial started.

Hoax or cover up? 

This is my opinion and I’n sticking with it!;-)

Until next time

cottontop

 

If you have seasonal preps, you stand a chance with a pandemic

26 Thursday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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birdflu, cottontop, H5N1, icestorm, pandemic, seasonal

Long before I ever heard about H5N1/birdflu, I was an avid prepper for seasonal emergencies. It was during our icestorm disaster in ’98, that the impact of having seasonal preps really woke me up. About the only prep I had at the time, was a manual can opener, something nobody else had. Go figure.

We were 13 days without power and phone. I did learn something and so did my hubby: a woman without a phone is NOT GOOD! I dealt with the daily problems that came up, while hubby scavenaged for food, water, and whatever he could get his hands on. Our cooking stove was propane, so we were good there. We could not go out because of the ice. However, cottontop being the curious little creature she is, went against the warning, and went outside. Down I went. A very stupid thing, as medical help could not get to me. I went out because I couldn’t handle being couped up. I needed to breath! The stress was horrible. I was cut off from society, worried sick about if I was going to be able to keep Daughter from getting hypertherma. (She hates hot chocolate to this day!) Hubby was moving between two households. His mother was battling cancer, and his father was bedridden with a broken hip and advanced parkinson’s. He was staying up watching our home at night, because looting was becoming a problem even in a rural setting, as people left their homes to go to shelters. What food we did get, I would sneak out some to our dog, which was tricky(didn’t want to fall again, and didn’t want hubby to catch me!)  I couldn’t let him starve. I cried at the thought.

When it was all said and done, the moral to the story is if we had two weeks of supplies, we would have been o.k. Just o.k. mind you. I went nuts with the prepping. I had dog food stashed under Daughter’s bed, along with what ever I could shove under there. Every spot in the house was full of something. Hubby started talking about committing me. Daughter was fed up with her room becoming a warehouse. Then an odd thing happened. For no reason, our whole area lost power for 24 hours during the summer. Well, guess who’s preps where in demand? After that, my family has never questioned my sanity. They can’t. Our preps have gotten us out of too many jams with power outages, and snowstorms. They believe in the “power of being prepared.”

If you and your family are prepared for seasonal disasters, you stand a chance against a pandemic. If you have been having trouble getting family and friends to prepare for a pandemic, get them to prep for seasonal disasters. I’ve had more success in talking to people about this more than using a pandemic to get people to prepare. People understand disasters. They can’t understand a pandemic.

By getting them to prepare for seasonal disasters, you are getting them to prepare for a pandemic. Then you won’t have to worry about them showing up on your doorstep! 😉

If you are like me, once you start prepping, you never look back.

Until next time,

cottontop

 

Waiting for a pandemic will wear you out!

26 Thursday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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cottontop, flu, fluwiki, H5N1, pandemic, readymom

This is in response to medclinican’s diary on the fluwiki. It’s been awhile since he’s posted. He’s concerned people are giving up, therefore will be unprepared when a pandemic happens.

“Thank you Medclinician.

It’s has been awhile.Yes, I agree with your assessment:” In fact, many serious and devoted posters have gone back to their normal family life, and in effect have lowered the alert level in their minds to a very pale yellow.”

It’s a human factor and that we can’t change. I struggle every now and then with this too, but then something major with happen, and I quickly loose the thought, and get back to business. Life too, for most of us, is just too busy for watching and waiting. I certainly hope that these posters do check up on the current situation, and do stay informed, although they may no longer post. I can’t blame these people for wanting their lives back.

We won’t be able to save everyone. We’ll only be able to  save just a few. Right now, to the massess, this info isn’t severe enough for them. They want numbers, large numbers, in order for them to justify them getting themselves and their family in a panic and spending spree. Money is tight Families fear for loss of jobs, and loss of homes. So in order for them to “give a damn” the H5N1 situation is going to have to get alot worse. Unfortunately, that’s when it’ll be too late. People really are in a catch 22. Perhaps they care, but do not have the extra money to spend on preps. Perhaps they have the money, and just don’t care.

The situation of getting people to pay attention and care, is what it is. Honestly, I think that at this point (because too many of us have been down this road)is to consentrate on getting the information out, instead of getting ourselves worked up because they aren’t listening. We have enough frustration trying to understand the motivations of these people who change the rules to suit a particular situation. We need to be here, where our time and energy will count. “The needs of the many out weight the needs of the few.” Is that how it goes you Trekkes out there? In other words, reaching as many people this way is certainly more valuable then trying to reach one, two or five people, face to face. Unless of course, you have something like the Readymom. ” 

United we stand: Divided we fall

A blogger’s plea

11 Wednesday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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cottontop, H5N1, Indonesian bloggers, pandemic, planet, public, scott mcphearson, virus

Now that the dust has settled(more or less) about Indonesian’s health minister’s decision, I’m going to send out a pleas to all the Indonesian bloggers:

We need your help. When I say “we”, I mean the world needs your help. Every single person needs your help. You have the ability to help keep us informed about this virus H5N1 and it’s victims. You have the ability to help us to keep tracking and informing the public on this great planet we live on. If we all work together, we can still stay one step ahead of a pandemic.  If you can help, please contact me at tresa2@peoplepc.com.  I know this plea sounds desperate, and it is. Right now we are sitting in the dark, and everyday that goes by in the dark is one more day we grow further away from the truth. That is what Supari wants for us, the world. She has a different agenda, and it isn’t saving lives! Please don’t let this woman win!

 

Scott McPhearson’s blog

Scott’s rant on Supari’s decision was a typical response from someone who has invested alot of time and energy watching this virus and Indonesia. His response was like others, including myself. I was left feeling very defeated for a couple of days.  Others seem to think that imposing sanctions and the likes would bring Indonesia and Supari to their needs and give in. You know, I don’ think so. I don’t think that is the answer. So this is the comment I left for Scott and all to read. it’s just what I think. 

“Unfortunately, I feel the politics is too deep to untangle this, especially from the U.S.A. We have alot at stake in Indonesia if we decide to start imposing this and that. The U.S. just lifted it’s travel warning to Indo a few months ago concerning the terrorist threat. The U.S. has oil companies there. The U.S. is tied to Indo politically and economicaly, and not many people realize this.

I honestly feel, that at presant time, our pleas to congressmen, political leaders, ect., will fall on deaf ears. I do believe the best we have to hope for and to work with, is the Indoneisan bloggers. They can be the biggest source of help than we can, at present time. Why? Because they are at the source. They have the power more so than us, to get this decision changed. They can write/contact WHO and plead with them to step in. This is happening to them, not us, at the moment. However, we need to be bombarding WHO with e-mails, letters, protests, whatevder we can do, to let them know their lack of response to this is just as outrageous, as Supari’s decision.

Get use to the frustration. It’s only going to get worse. I was furious when I found out the general public was not going to have access to the sequences but that you had to “join” a group that closely monitored what was taken from that site and displayed on the internet. This decison from the health minister has sent us over the edge, and it feels like defeat. We are not defeated. We still have something to work with, and if we all start talking with the Indonesian bloggers, perhaps there is a chance(that’s about all we have left) that Supari’s decision will be overruled, changed or at best, reports can be once a month.

Let’s not give up folks. The flu communities have come too far to feel defeated or be defeated! We have made a difference and we can continue to do so. ”

JMHO

So this is my reason for asking for help from Indonesian bloggers. They have the best advantage to make a difference. I hope they use it.

Kudos to Scott for all his hard work and a great blog. Here is the link: http://www.scottmcpherson.net/journal/2008/6/6/indonesias-descent-into-government-madness-continues.html#comments

Indonesia says it will no longer formally announce bird flu deaths

05 Thursday Jun 2008

Posted by niarane in Uncategorized

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bird flu deaths, cottontop, h5n1 sequences, Indonesia, indonesian newspapers

We flubies awoke this morning to the news that Indonesia will “no longer formally announce bird flu deaths.”

It was bad enough that they locked the public out from viewing the sequences, and forbid information to be transmitted to forums to be discussed. How decietful of them. Now the public will be locked out of any reported bf deaths, and I’m guessing also suspect and confirmed cases.

We’ve seen something coming by way of the reduced stories. I cover 9 Indo sites, and I’m lucky if I have one story to translate on any given day. Today was a good day with two stories.

The Indo team covers many Indo newspapers, and between us all, we can get maybe, maybe a handful of stories here lately. That’s on a good day.

This is the finally blow for us. I just want you folks to see just how much of a blow this is to us all. We have very little bf news now from Indonesia. We will have no way to accurately assess the H5N1 situation.

Now that we will be locked out of the bf Indo news, what do you think is happening here? Could this be an indication of Indo being in phase 4?

We have no susquences to view
We will no longer have the stats on H5N1 deaths

Are you as outraged as I am? What do yo think is going on? Has the community of flubies done too good of a job keeping H5N1 front and center to the public?

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